CNN just ran a very interesting piece detailing that every President since 1968 has suffered a major scandal in his second term. CNN then indicates that the scandals always took place in the first term but came to a head during the second term of their Presidency. Given all of the scandals currently facing President Obama (List of Scandals), I find it amusing that the CNN reporter asks “where could this scandal come from?”

Well we’ve already seen how Obama destroyed the “unemployment above levels above which an incumbent had EVER…won an election” historical precedent. We’ll just have to wait and see if any real scandals emerge in the next couple months of his first term or whether partisan hacks will try to invent yet another one.
Pssst…if you count from 1972 Watergate breakin under Tricky, it would only be “in last 40 years”, not 50. Just the facts, Ma’am! Journalistic ethics and Integrity, please!
No one will need to invent “another” scandal, Obama has done a great job of creating his own scandals though I will say that he has proven particularly adept at deflecting and avoiding (though aided by a generally complicit media). Its only a mater of time . . . .
Nope. Redefining “scandal” to conform to a narrative doesn’t make it a scandal.
No comment on the “50 years” vs 40 years? “Arithmetic” must be different in that parallel universe of yours.
Do you really think that the difference between 44 years and 50 years is in anyway relevant to the discussion?
Accuracy is indeed relevant as the headline is the starting point for the discussion. It speaks volumes to the credibility of what follows, just as you are still inflating 40 years to 44 years even now.
“CNN just ran a very interesting piece detailing that every President since 1968 has suffered a major scandal in his second term.” Hmmmm, 2012-1968 = 44. Are we really arguing about THIS?
It’s not an argument. It’s a discussion. I would never want to be accused of “believing” what I read or watch. The scandal was an event in 1972, and CNN piece was on the scandals, not the President’s election date. Hmmmmm, 2012-1972=40 years. 44 years is still not 50 years…but you just misrepresent however you want and I’ll point out the inconsistency with the facts.
Are you really this obtuse, Snoopy, or is it just your cheerful liberal personality (see how I used a big word to match that razor sharp intellect of yours)?
The Kool-Aid must taste great up in that ivory (I mean Ivy) tower of yours.
So you’re ok with the author lying? What is obtuse about calling out someone claiming to be the Ivy Tower elite with all that “intellectual prowess” when he can’t even be honest in the first line of a blog post?
“No Apologies” here for pointing out lies. Woodward and Bernstein would not approve of such tactics the author uses. They would demand accuracy and intellectual honesty. A lie is a lie and speaks volumes to the journalistic integrity of even a “sports reporter”.
The “santorum” you drink must be taking it’s toll on your intellectual honesty as well.
Snoopy, the first line of the story is “CNN just ran a very interesting piece detailing that every President since 1968 has suffered a major scandal in his second term.” Not sure of anyway in which that could be construed as a “lie” or anything other than accurate reporting. If you meant to argue that I lied in my headline “Will Obama Join The 100% Of Presidents With A Second Term Scandal In Last 50 Years?” I have already conceded that the CNN piece started with Nixon who was elected in 1968 which is 44 years ago – is that my supposed “lie?” By the way, LBJ came to office in 1962 and during his second term suffered through continual scandals in Vietnam, the handling of the Kennedy assassination and the hands on handling of his financial not so “blind trust.” So even if CNN didn’t report on it, I think that it is your nose that is growing snoopochio, not mine.
The first line of any story begins with the headline which is used to indicate what will follow. So, yes, you LIED by erroneously proclaiming “In The Last 50 Years”. Now you attempt to de-Pinocchio and obfuscate your lie by adding a diversion not addressed in the CNN story you used to make your false claim of “50 years”.
Your “concession” of showing your math of 44 years is not a admission of the blatant lie (not “supposed” lie) of 50 years. Stretching 44 to 50 is still a LIE.
You really need to get off that “river in Egypt” and just “man-up” and admit you mislead your “loyal followers”. It take a “big man” to admit when he’s just simply wrong. Only the weak and petulant offer “No Apologies”. Absolutely scandalous!!
Snoopochio, I will admit that your kind of tenacity in the face of clear facts that you are misleading people has become the hallmark of the Democratic party.
And the diversion from and refusal to admit when caught in a lie is the hallmark or the Republican Party. Ignoring the lie does not make it any less a lie. It’s that audacity that has destroyed the faith in the Republican Party as a viable alternative. You just continue to cherry pick only the “facts” that are convenient and I’ll continue to expose the “facts” that aren’t so convenient to your narrative.
Now what kind of “pet name” can I come up with for you? I’ll have to think up a good pejorative to use to at least make it appear not to be resorting to ad hominems as a valid rebuttal.
Of course not. He’ll sail right on through to his third term. Anything that could possibly hold him back will be manipulated.
If Obama only had 6 scandals (eyeroll) in his first term it’s actually a huge improvement, as GW Bush had a whopping 34 in his first 4 years.
Let’s walk down memory lane;
Salon
The scandal sheet
. Here are 34 scandals from the first four years of George W. Bush’s presidency — every one of them worse than Whitewater.
BY PETER DIZIKES
1. Memogate: The Senate Computer Theft
The scandal: From 2001 to 2003, Republican staffers on the Senate Judiciary Committee illicitly accessed nearly 5,000 computer files containing confidential Democratic strategy memos about President Bush’s judicial nominees. The GOP used the memos to shape their own plans and leaked some to the media.
The problem: The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act states it is illegal to obtain confidential information from a government computer.
The outcome: Unresolved. The Justice Department has assigned a prosecutor to the case. The staff member at the heart of the matter, Manuel Miranda, has attempted to brazen it out, filing suit in September 2004 against the DOJ to end the investigation. “A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich,” Miranda complained. Some jokes just write themselves.
2. Doctor Detroit: The DOJ’s Bungled Terrorism Case
The scandal: The Department of Justice completely botched the nation’s first post-9/11 terrorism trial, as seen when the convictions of three Detroit men allegedly linked to al-Qaida were overturned in September 2004. Former Attorney General John Ashcroft had claimed their June 2003 sentencing sent “a clear message” that the government would “detect, disrupt and dismantle the activities of terrorist cells.”
The problem: The DOJ’s lead prosecutor in the case, Richard Convertino, withheld key information from the defense and distorted supposed pieces of evidence — like a Las Vegas vacation video purported to be a surveillance tape. But that’s not the half of it. Convertino says he was unfairly scapegoated because he testified before the Senate, against DOJ wishes, about terrorist financing. Justice’s reconsideration of the case began soon thereafter. Convertino has since sued the DOJ, which has also placed him under investigation.
The outcome: Let’s see: Overturned convictions, lawsuits and feuding about a Kafkaesque case. Nobody looks good here.
3. Dark Matter: The Energy Task Force
The scandal: A lawsuit has claimed it is illegal for Dick Cheney to keep the composition of his 2001 energy-policy task force secret. What’s the big deal? The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer has suggested an explosive aspect of the story, citing a National Security Council memo from February 2001, which “directed the N.S.C. staff to cooperate fully with the Energy Task Force as it considered the ‘melding’ of … ‘operational policies towards rogue states,’ such as Iraq, and ‘actions regarding the capture of new and existing oil and gas fields.’” In short, the task force’s activities could shed light on the administration’s pre-9/11 Iraq aims.
The problem: The Federal Advisory Committee Act says the government must disclose the work of groups that include non-federal employees; the suit claims energy industry executives were effectively task force members. Oh, and the Bush administration has portrayed the Iraq war as a response to 9/11, not something it was already considering.
The outcome: Unresolved. In June 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court sent the case back to an appellate court.
4. The Indian Gaming Scandal
The scandal: Potential influence peddling to the tune of $82 million, for starters. Jack Abramoff, a GOP lobbyist and major Bush fundraiser, and Michael Scanlon, a former aide to Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas), received that amount from several Indian tribes, while offering access to lawmakers. For instance, Texas’ Tigua tribe, which wanted its closed El Paso casino reopened, gave millions to the pair and $33,000 to Rep. Robert Ney (R-Ohio) in hopes of favorable legislation (Ney came up empty). And get this: The Tiguas were unaware that Abramoff, Scanlon and conservative activist Ralph Reed had earned millions lobbying to have the same casino shut in 2002.
The problem: Federal officials want to know if Abramoff and Scanlon provided real services for the $82 million, and if they broke laws while backing candidates in numerous Indian tribe elections.
The outcome: Everybody into the cesspool! The Senate Indian Affairs Committee and five federal agencies, including the FBI, IRS, and Justice Department, are investigating.
5. Halliburton’s No-Bid Bonanza
The scandal: In February 2003, Halliburton received a five-year, $7 billion no-bid contract for services in Iraq.
The problem: The Army Corps of Engineers’ top contracting officer, Bunnatine Greenhouse, objected to the deal, saying the contract should be the standard one-year length, and that a Halliburton official should not have been present during the discussions.
The outcome: The FBI is investigating. The $7 billion contract was halved and Halliburton won one of the parts in a public bid. For her troubles, Greenhouse has been forced into whistle-blower protection.
6. Halliburton: Pumping Up Prices
The scandal: In 2003, Halliburton overcharged the army for fuel in Iraq. Specifically, Halliburton’s subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root hired a Kuwaiti company, Altanmia, to supply fuel at about twice the going rate, then added a markup, for an overcharge of at least $61 million, according to a December 2003 Pentagon audit.
The problem: That’s not the government’s $61 million, it’s our $61 million.
The outcome: The FBI is investigating.
7. Halliburton’s Vanishing Iraq Money
The scandal: In mid-2004, Pentagon auditors determined that $1.8 billion of Halliburton’s charges to the government, about 40 percent of the total, had not been adequately documented.
The problem: That’s not the government’s $1.8 billion, it’s our $1.8 billion.
The outcome: The Defense Contract Audit Agency has “strongly” asked the Army to withhold about $60 million a month from its Halliburton payments until the documentation is provided.
8. The Halliburton Bribe-apalooza
The scandal: This may not surprise you, but an international consortium of companies, including Halliburton, is alleged to have paid more than $100 million in bribes to Nigerian officials, from 1995 to 2002, to facilitate a natural-gas-plant deal. (Cheney was Halliburton’s CEO from 1995 to 2000.)
The problem: The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act prohibits U.S. companies from bribing foreign officials.
The outcome: A veritable coalition of the willing is investigating the deal, including the Justice Department, the SEC, the Nigerian government and a French magistrate. In June, Halliburton fired two implicated executives.
9. Halliburton: One Fine Company
The scandal: In 1998 and 1999, Halliburton counted money recovered from project overruns as revenue, before settling the charges with clients.
The problem: Doing so made the company’s income appear larger, but Halliburton did not explain this to investors. The SEC ruled this accounting practice was “materially misleading.”
The outcome: In August 2004, Halliburton agreed to pay a $7.5 million fine to settle SEC charges. One Halliburton executive has paid a fine and another is settling civil charges. Now imagine the right-wing rhetoric if, say, Al Gore had once headed a firm fined for fudging income statements.
10. Halliburton’s Iran End Run
The scandal: Halliburton may have been doing business with Iran while Cheney was CEO.
The problem: Federal sanctions have banned U.S. companies from dealing directly with Iran. To operate in Iran legally, U.S. companies have been required to set up independent subsidiaries registered abroad. Halliburton thus set up a new entity, Halliburton Products and Services Ltd., to do business in Iran, but while the subsidiary was registered in the Cayman Islands, it may not have had operations totally independent of the parent company.
The outcome: Unresolved. The Treasury Department has referred the case to the U.S. attorney in Houston, who convened a grand jury in July 2004.
11. Money Order: Afghanistan’s Missing $700 Million Turns Up in Iraq
The scandal: According to Bob Woodward’s “Plan of Attack,” the Bush administration diverted $700 million in funds from the war in Afghanistan, among other places, to prepare for the Iraq invasion.
The problem: Article I, Section 8, Clause 12 of the U.S. Constitution specifically gives Congress the power “to raise and support armies.” And the emergency spending bill passed after Sept. 11, 2001, requires the administration to notify Congress before changing war spending plans. That did not happen.
The outcome: Congress declined to investigate. The administration’s main justification for its decision has been to claim the funds were still used for, one might say, Middle East anti-tyrant-related program activities.
12. Iraq: More Loose Change
The scandal: The inspector general of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq released a series of reports in July 2004 finding that a significant portion of CPA assets had gone missing — 34 percent of the materiel controlled by Kellogg, Brown & Root — and that the CPA’s method of disbursing $600 million in Iraq reconstruction funds “did not establish effective controls and left accountability open to fraud, waste and abuse.”
The problem: As much as $50 million of that money was disbursed without proper receipts.
The outcome: The CPA has disbanded, but individual government investigations into the handling of Iraq’s reconstruction continue.
13. The Pentagon-Israel Spy Case
The scandal: A Pentagon official, Larry Franklin, may have passed classified United States documents about Iran to Israel, possibly via the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a Washington lobbying group.
The problem: To do so could be espionage or could constitute the mishandling of classified documents.
The outcome: A grand jury is investigating. In December 2004, the FBI searched AIPAC’s offices. A Senate committee has also been investigating the apparently unauthorized activities of the Near East and South Asia Affairs group in the Pentagon, where Franklin works.
14. Gone to Taiwan
The scandal: Missed this one? A high-ranking State Department official, Donald Keyser, was arrested and charged in September with making a secret trip to Taiwan and was observed by the FBI passing documents to Taiwanese intelligence agents in Washington-area meetings.
The problem: Such unauthorized trips are illegal. And we don’t have diplomatic relations with Taiwan.
The outcome: The case is in the courts.
15. Wiretapping the United Nations
The scandal: Before the United Nations’ vote on the Iraq war, the United States and Great Britain developed an eavesdropping operation targeting diplomats from several countries.
The problem: U.N. officials say the practice is illegal and undermines honest diplomacy, although some observers claim it is business as usual on East 42nd Street.
The outcome: Little fuss here, but a major British scandal erupted after U.K. intelligence translator Katherine Gun leaked a U.S. National Security Agency memo requesting British help in the spying scheme, in early 2003. Initially charged under Britain’s Official Secrets Act for leaking classified information, Gun was cleared in 2004 — seemingly to avoid hearings questioning the legality of Britain’s war participation.
16. The Boeing Boondoggle
The scandal: In 2003, the Air Force contracted with Boeing to lease a fleet of refueling tanker planes at an inflated price: $23 billion.
The problem: The deal was put together by a government procurement official, Darleen Druyun, who promptly joined Boeing. Beats using a headhunter.
The outcome: In November 2003, Boeing fired both Druyun and CFO Michael Sears. In April 2004, Druyun pled guilty to a conspiracy charge in the case. In November 2004, Sears copped to a conflict-of-interest charge, and company CEO Phil Condit resigned. The government is reviewing its need for the tankers.
17. The Medicare Bribe Scandal
The scandal: According to former Rep. Nick Smith (R-Mich.), on Nov. 21, 2003, with the vote on the administration’s Medicare bill hanging in the balance, someone offered to contribute $100,000 to his son’s forthcoming congressional campaign, if Smith would support the bill.
The problem: Federal law prohibits the bribery of elected officials.
The outcome: In September 2004, the House Ethics Committee concluded an inquiry by fingering House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), saying he deserved “public admonishment” for offering to endorse Smith’s son in return for Smith’s vote. DeLay has claimed Smith initiated talks about a quid pro quo. The matter of the $100,000 is unresolved; soon after his original allegations, Smith suddenly claimed he had not been offered any money. Smith’s son Brad lost his GOP primary in August 2004.
18. Tom DeLay’s PAC Problems
The scandal: One of DeLay’s political action committees, Texans for a Republican Majority, apparently reaped illegal corporate contributions for the campaigns of Republicans running for the Texas Legislature in 2002. Given a Republican majority, the Legislature then re-drew Texas’ U.S. congressional districts to help the GOP.
The problem: Texas law bans the use of corporate money for political purposes.
The outcome: Unresolved. Three DeLay aides and associates — Jim Ellis, John Colyandro and Warren RoBold — were charged in September 2004 with crimes including money laundering and unlawful acceptance of corporate contributions.
19. Tom DeLay’s FAA: Following Americans Anywhere
The scandal: In May 2003, DeLay’s office persuaded the Federal Aviation Administration to find the plane carrying a Texas Democratic legislator, who was leaving the state in an attempt to thwart the GOP’s nearly unprecedented congressional redistricting plan.
The problem: According to the House Ethics Committee, the “invocation of federal executive branch resources in a partisan dispute before a state legislative body” is wrong.
The outcome: In October 2004, the committee rebuked DeLay for his actions.
20. In the Rough: Tom DeLay’s Golf Fundraiser
The scandal: DeLay appeared at a golf fundraiser that Westar Energy held for one of his political action committees, Americans for a Republican Majority, while energy legislation was pending in the House.
The problem: It’s one of these “appearance of impropriety” situations.
The outcome: The House Ethics Committee tossed the matter into its Oct. 6 rebuke. “Take a lap, Tom.”
21. Busy, Busy, Busy in New Hampshire
The scandal: In 2002, with a tight Senate race in New Hampshire, Republican Party officials paid a Virginia-based firm, GOP Marketplace, to enact an Election Day scheme meant to depress Democratic turnout by “jamming” the Democratic Party phone bank with continuous calls for 90 minutes.
The problem: Federal law prohibits the use of telephones to “annoy or harass” anyone.
The outcome: Chuck McGee, the former executive director of the New Hampshire GOP, pleaded guilty in July 2004 to a felony charge, while Allen Raymond, former head of GOP Marketplace, pleaded guilty to a similar charge in June. In December, James Tobin, former New England campaign chairman of Bush-Cheney ’04, was indicted for conspiracy in the case.
22. The Medicare Money Scandal
The scandal: Thomas Scully, Medicare’s former administrator, supposedly threatened to fire chief Medicare actuary Richard Foster to prevent him from disclosing the true cost of the 2003 Medicare bill.
The problem: Congress voted on the bill believing it would cost $400 billion over 10 years. The program is more likely to cost $550 billion.
The outcome: Scully denies threatening to fire Foster, as Foster has charged, but admits telling Foster to withhold the higher estimate from Congress. In September 2004, the Government Accountability Office recommended Scully return half his salary from 2003. Inevitably, Scully is now a lobbyist for drug companies helped by the bill.
23. The Bogus Medicare “Video News Release”
The scandal: To promote its Medicare bill, the Bush administration produced imitation news-report videos touting the legislation. About 40 television stations aired the videos. More recently, similar videos promoting the administration’s education policy have come to light.
The problem: The administration broke two laws: One forbidding the use of federal money for propaganda, and another forbidding the unauthorized use of federal funds.
The outcome: In May 2004, the GAO concluded the administration acted illegally, but the agency lacks enforcement power.
24. Pundits on the Payroll: The Armstrong Williams Case
The scandal: The Department of Education paid conservative commentator Armstrong Williams $240,000 to promote its educational law, No Child Left Behind.
The problem: Williams did not disclose that his support was government funded until the deal was exposed in January 2005.
The outcome: The House and FCC are considering inquiries, while Williams’ syndicated newspaper column has been terminated.
25. Ground Zero’s Unsafe Air
The scandal: Government officials publicly minimized the health risks stemming from the World Trade Center attack. In September 2001, for example, Environmental Protection Agency head Christine Todd Whitman said New York’s “air is safe to breathe and [the] water is safe to drink.”
The problem: Research showed serious dangers or was incomplete. The EPA used outdated techniques that failed to detect tiny asbestos particles. EPA data also showed high levels of lead and benzene, which causes cancer. A Sierra Club report claims the government ignored alarming data. A GAO report says no adequate study of 9/11′s health effects has been organized.
The outcome: The long-term health effects of the disaster will likely not be apparent for years or decades and may never be definitively known. Already, hundreds of 9/11 rescue workers have quit their jobs because of acute illnesses.
26. John Ashcroft’s Illegal Campaign Contributions
The scandal: Ashcroft’s exploratory committee for his short-lived 2000 presidential bid transferred $110,000 to his unsuccessful 2000 reelection campaign for the Senate.
The problem: The maximum for such a transfer is $10,000.
The outcome: The Federal Election Commission fined Ashcroft’s campaign treasurer, Garrett Lott, $37,000 for the transgression.
27. Intel Inside … The White House
The scandal: In early 2001, chief White House political strategist Karl Rove held meetings with numerous companies while maintaining six-figure holdings of their stock — including Intel, whose executives were seeking government approval of a merger. “Washington hadn’t seen a clearer example of a conflict of interest in years,” wrote Paul Glastris in the Washington Monthly.
The problem: The Code of Federal Regulations says government employees should not participate in matters in which they have a personal financial interest.
The outcome: Then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales, spurning precedent, did not refer the case to the Justice Department.
28. Duck! Antonin Scalia’s Legal Conflicts
The scandal: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia refused to recuse himself from the Cheney energy task force case, despite taking a duck-hunting trip with the vice president after the court agreed to weigh the matter.
The problem: Federal law requires a justice to “disqualify himself from any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.”
The outcome: Scalia stayed on, arguing no conflict existed because Cheney was party to the case in a professional, not personal, capacity. Nothing new for Scalia, who in 2002 was part of a Mississippi redistricting ruling favorable to GOP Rep. Chip Pickering — son of Judge Charles Pickering, a Scalia turkey-hunting pal. In 2001, Scalia went pheasant hunting with Kansas Gov. Bill Graves when that state had cases pending before the Supreme Court.
29. AWOL
The scandal: George W. Bush, self-described “war president,” did not fulfill his National Guard duty, and Bush and his aides have made misleading statements about it. Salon’s Eric Boehlert wrote the best recent summary of the issue.
The problem: Military absenteeism is a punishable offense, although Bush received an honorable discharge.
The outcome: No longer a campaign issue. But what was Bush doing in 1972?
30. Iraq: The Case for War
The scandal: Bush and many officials in his administration made false statements about Iraq’s military capabilities, in the months before the United States’ March 2003 invasion of the country.
The problem: For one thing, it is a crime to lie to Congress, although Bush backers claim the president did not knowingly make false assertions.
The outcome: A war spun out of control with unknowable long-term consequences. The Iraq Survey Group has stopped looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
31. Niger Forgeries: Whodunit?
The scandal: In his January 2003 State of the Union address, Bush said, “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”
The problem: The statement was untrue. By March 2003, the International Atomic Energy Agency showed the claim, that Iraq sought materials from Niger, was based on easily discernible forgeries.
The outcome: The identity of the forger(s) remains under wraps. Journalist Josh Marshall has implied the FBI is oddly uninterested in interviewing Rocco Martino, the former Italian intelligence agent who apparently first shopped the documents in intelligence and journalistic circles and would presumably be able to shed light on their origin.
32. In Plame Sight
The scandal: In July 2003, administration officials disclosed the identity of Valerie Plame, a CIA operative working on counterterrorism efforts, to multiple journalists, and columnist Robert Novak made Plame’s identity public. Plame’s husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, had just written a New York Times opinion piece stating he had investigated the Niger uranium-production allegations, at the CIA’s behest, and reported them to be untrue, before Bush’s 2003 State of the Union address.
The problem: Under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act it is illegal to disclose, knowingly, the name of an undercover agent.
The outcome: Unresolved. The Justice Department appointed special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to the case in December 2003. While this might seem a simple matter, Fitzgerald could be unable to prove the leakers knew Plame was a covert agent.
33. Abu Ghraib
The scandal: American soldiers physically tortured prisoners in Iraq and kept undocumented “ghost detainees” in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
The problem: The United States is party to the Geneva Conventions, which state that “No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever.”
The outcome: Unresolved. A Pentagon internal inquiry found a lack of oversight at Abu Ghraib, while independent inquiries have linked the events to the administration’s desire to use aggressive interrogation methods globally. Notoriously, Gonzales has advocated an approach which “renders obsolete Geneva’s strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions.” More recently, Gonzales issued qualified support for the Geneva Conventions in January 2005 Senate testimony after being nominated for attorney general. Army reservist Charles Graner was convicted in January 2005 for abusing prisoners, while a few other soldiers await trial.
34. Guantánamo Bay Torture?
The scandal: The U.S. military is also alleged to have abused prisoners at the U.S. Navy’s base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. FBI agents witnessing interrogations there have reported use of growling dogs to frighten prisoners and the chaining of prisoners in the fetal position while depriving them of food or water for extended periods.
The problem: More potential violations of the Geneva Conventions.
The outcome: An internal military investigation was launched in January 2005.
Keep a close watch on the President’s socks. It would be scandalous if he were caught wearing mis-matched socks one day. Might even be an impeachable offense. If he can’t be trusted to pick out matching socks, how could he be trusted with his finger on the button?
Bush also started the Civil War, is actually a vampire, was rough on his pledge brothers and once passed gas in a crowded theater.
It’ll all be ok, GW. Everyone knows that humor is often used to alleviate the stress of having to admit uncomfortable realities.
If the ONLY scandal GW Bush were guilty of was lying us into the Iraq war, his scandals would still dwarf Obamas’.
The Iraq war was the GREATEST STRATEGIC BLUNDER IN US HISTORY.
The Iraq war cost the US thousands of lives, tens of thousands of injuries, the goodwill and respect of the world and trillions of dollars.
We broke the Geneva conventions, we bombed and slaughtered thousands of innocent Iraqi’s, we allowed an ancient society to be looted and destroyed, we allowed Halliburton and its subsidiaries to loot the US treasury while abusing our own troops.
The scale of the disaster that was the Iraq war is beyond belief. And to think, that we didn’t IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY FOR THAT CARNAGE and try them for WAR CRIMES is also unbelievable.
And all for what?
An empowered Iran.*
*and all the defense contractors who made BILLIONS.
The idea that you think Obama more corrupt than GW Bush should automatically label you as a certified nut job, but no, we live in a fact-free Fox world where the ENORMITY OF BUSH’S CRIMES were swept under the rug, allowing you right-wing nuts to continue to act as if you deserve to be heard.
YOU, DON’T!
YOU WERE WRONG THEN AND YOU ARE WRONG NOW!
I know that must of the material I am referring to was written for a prior blog run by others and only archived here, but I have never been a huge Bush fan in that I believe he is the second worst offender in history in terms of expanding the government. Worse yet, he greatly expanded the government under the guise of conservatism. I think that he horribly expanded corporate welfare to the detriment of the country. In direct contrast to what you write here, I think that Bush was highly scrutinized by a hostile media and held accountable for most of his wrongs whereas Obama seems to slide by with virtually every lie and scandal he creates.
How was Bush held accountable?
Details please.
Crickets. Why am I not surprised.
Wow, two minutes between posts and its “crickets?’ The fail in Irag was under Bush I when we started a war and then let it fizzle down without removing the leader of the country. We certainly have allowed ourselves to be demonized by the Islamist states by intervening for clearly economic reasons. On the other hand, neither war in the Persian Gulf was a military disaster like Vietnam and we did accomplish our military objectives. We just disagree on this one.
I asked you how GW Bush and Dick Cheney were held accountable, yesterday at 3:30 pm. My “crickets” comment was posted 27 hours later, not “two minutes”, you have some serious math issues.
And by the way, I’m still waiting.
What President is EVER held accountable? You think Obama will ever be held accountable for Fast and Furious or Bengazi? Never. And he should be. Presidents are like The Teflon Don(Gotti). Except for Clinton. Too bad that splooge didn’t slide off Monica’s dress or he would have been home free too.
Ugh, does the name Nixon ring a bell?
Really, think about that remedial US history class.
Maybe this is why Bush was NEVER held accountable;
Congressional investigations
Six years, $60 million for Lewinskygate, Travelgate, and Whitewater
3 months, $14 million for the deadliest attack on U.S. soil in history, 9-11
(with stonewalling and cover-ups to boot)
140 hours of sworn testimony to get to the bottom of whether Clinton had misused the White House Christmas-card list for political purposes
12 hours on prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib.
Hey Stupid: Nixon resigned. He was never impeached, never formally charged with a crime, never had to say he did anything wrong. To me, he skirted the accountability issue.
He resigned one step ahead of the posse and had to live out his days in shame and infamy.
While he didn’t go to jail, others in his immediate circle did, including his Attorney General.
That is being held accountable.
I guess its how you look at it. I have a friend who went to jail for actually doing some of the wiretapping. Yes, lot’s of people were held accountable, but not Nixon. He was allowed to resign thus escaping direct accountability. He should have gone to jail(now that’s being held accountable)The only difference between Nxon and Clinton was that Clinton knew the votes to impeach weren’t there. So he didnt have to resign. The fact of the matter is, that if you or I lied to Congress, we would be thrown in jail. Preferential treatment is commonplace in Politics. It’s all in how one views things.
The criminal complaints filed under the Convention Against Torture is certainly an attempt to hold him accountable but he shakes with fear of arrest if he steps foot in the wrong country.
“Bush was highly scrutinized by a hostile media and held accountable”
So “the media of Woodward And Bernstein” disintegrated on January 20, 2009?
It’s so hard keeping up with what applies to whom and when.
I think calling the Iraq War the worst Military blunder in US history sounds like someone who didn’t experience the Vietnam War Era. THAT war cost way more American lives, probably(adjusted for inflation( way more money and for what? NOTHING that benefited the American people. Thanks Democrats, for starting that completely unnecessary War.
I am with you on Vietnam Frank, and I think that the mistake is made even worse if you know that Kennedy stepped into France’s place in that horrible war as DeGaul’s “price” for France joining NATO. Yeah, we really needed the military help of France.
And on top of calling the Iraq conflict the worst blunder, keep in mind, it wasn’t just Bush by himself. I’ve seen plenty of videos of Democrat Congressmen and Senators saying in press conferences that we have to do something about Hussein. Too much blame is passed on to the President, just as it has/will be passed on to Obama.
IRAQ WAR GREATEST STRATEGIC BLUNDER IN US HISTORY
The word “STRATEGIC” must have gone-right-over-your-head (not surprising). Yes, Vietnam was a huge wasteful war (one we should have learned from), but strategically it did not have as many severe, long term consequences as Iraq will.
Beyond the damage to our troops, military and economy the Iraq war damaged us strategically.
Our blunder in Iraq upset the regional balance, we ended up strengthening Iran, Al Queda and Hezbollah.
We alienated and inflamed the Muslim world and ruined our reputation and relations with our allies.
Instead of being perceived as a benevolent liberator, the US looked like a blundering behemoth – and an abusive, hypocritical one to boot.
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The Bush White House cherry-picked the intelligence that was presented to congress and the public;
Foreign Affairs
Intelligence, Policy,and the War in Iraq
By Paul R. Pillar
March/April 2006
During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, writes the intelligence community’s former senior analyst for the Middle East, the Bush administration disregarded the community’s expertise, politicized the intelligence process, and selected unrepresentative raw intelligence to make its public case.
A DYSFUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIP
” … In the wake of the Iraq war, it has become clear that official intelligence analysis was not relied on in making even the most significant national security decisions, that intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions already made, that damaging ill will developed between policymakers and intelligence officers, and that the intelligence community’s own work was politicized. As the national intelligence officer responsible for the Middle East from 2000 to 2005, I witnessed all of these disturbing developments. …”
Oh, Yeh. That word “strategic” makes all the difference in the world. Idiot. Typical Liberal. Ask the 50,000 plus Americans who lost their life in Vietnam if that word makes a difference. Ask all the men and women who were wounded and had their lives changed forever whether that word makes a difference. At least there was a semblance of reason to go into Iraq. Saddam was a threat not only to his country, but to the countries around him. Ask Iran. The problem is, there are a limited number of people capable of running a country in the Middle East. That’s how these dictators come to power and usually stay. Vietnam survived nicely because they weren’t driven by hate. The Muslim world hates everything including themselves. It’s a cultural thing. They are being exposed for what they are. That, is the problem with going into Iraq. Rather than picking themselves off the floor and saying let’s better ourselves, they fight one another. I say leave them alone, let them kill one another off. It’ll happen anyway. That’s all they know. There’s no word for compromise in the Arab world.
JFK said no to Vietnam-was murdered-so that LBJ COULD FINISH HIS FIRST TERM-scoping out VIETNAM!!!
LBJ SPENT HIS 2ND TERM WITH AMERICANS DYING IN SPENT IN VIETNAM; while at home LBJ WAS SIGNING INTO LAW “GREAT SOCIETY” legislation.
The “GREAT SOCIETY” OF LBJ IS THE REASON FOR 70% OF BLACK FAMILIES WITHOUT A FATHER AT HOME.
“That word “strategic” makes all the difference in the world. ”
Yeah idiot, it does. Did I say that the Iraq war was the worst war in US history? No, I said it was the biggest STRATEGIC BLUNDER.
Somebody needs to go back to grade school and re-learn his vocabulary lessons.
And while you’re at it, review your history too. Your display of ignorance and hateful intolerance is embarrassing.
Your opinion. That and a quarter won’t even buy a stick of gum anymore. It’s worthless. And so are you. I have to get back to work to help pay for numbskulls like you.
No Frank, words have actual meanings. I’m sorry you’re an undereducated moron, otherwise you’d know that.
Please, put in some overtime, I want to go to Vegas.
Joe, what a bizarre argument you have spun here. Through the test of time we have seen just how deeply we failed strategically, geopolitically and militarily in VIetnam. We brought young untrained non-volunteers into a part of the world that they did not know to fight a war that they didn’t understand. Because of that war, Vietnam remains one of the few countries in the world still under communist control. The arrogance of military leadership and the confused and unclear rules of engagement from civilian leadership led to an horrible butt-whooping in front of the whole world that when combined with the Watergate scandal plunged America into a nationwide malaise for almost a decade. I would consider THAT to be the worst STRATEGIC failure in American military history.
You know buddy, WE FAILED IN IRAQ TOO. Iraq is not a stable country.
Vietnam may be communist, but just like China, we trade with them. Thank Clinton for our normalized relations. Most Vietnamese are Buddhists, they don’t hold grudges, that’s why we can trade with them and our Vietnam vets can go back there and visit. I don’t think Iraq’s muslims will be quite so forgiving.
You’ve been whining and moaning about Iran and the threat they pose to the mid-east, well Bush’s lil’ adventure in Iraq strengthened their hand.
You also piss and moan about the deficit, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were the FIRST wars where we didn’t raise taxes to pay for them and they were HUGELY EXPENSIVE (trillions). No, Bush cut taxes, put the wars on the credit card and kept them off the books (one reason that the deficit went up under Obama, he accounted for the cost of the wars).
Iraq was so unnecessary and so wasteful, the real shame is that american’s DIDN’T LEARN from Vietnam, no, we were ready, willing and eager to kick some Iraqi but. The joke was on us though, we’ll be PAYING for that DISASTER for years to come.
And the Iraq war’s damage is still unfolding.
“the real shame is that american’s DIDN’T LEARN from Vietnam…” That is correct. We have also learned nothing from Iraq if we allow these filthy Zionists and their Evangelical dupes to strong-arm the USA into yet another war, this time with Iran.
Dear Mr. Hayden,
Isn’t there some anti-Semitic board you could dazzle with your hate speech, instead of littering this otherwise interesting civil discourse? The banter here can get heated, but it’s always based in reality. Your false sense of superiority went out of vogue with Hitler and the klan and is anti-intellectual, as well as delusional.