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It would be fine with me if the United States deported everyone in the United States that is here illegally. I know that I will be called heartless and a destroyer of families. The truth is that the law is the law and it has to be either enforced or changed – until it is changed, it should be strictly and consistently enforced. I would be equally fine if the laws were changed and all of those in the country illegally were declared legal and comprehensive new laws were adopted that are enforced going forward. My conservative friends will have a heart attack, but until the United States stops ignoring and starts enforcing immigration laws we remain the joke of the world and the GOP will remain the enemy of Latinos.
Both Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame for this mess. On the Republican side, business interests have convinced conservative law makers to ignore the issue to maintain an inexpensive workforce. Consistently enforced immigration laws and policies would increase labor costs in many industries. Conservatives have used many excuses claiming that it is impossible to close the borders, that amnesty would be un-American or that it is the Democrats fault. The truth is that they simply want the status quo to go on forever even though the price of this obstinance was the Presidency and control of the Senate.
Democrats are equally at fault. By refusing to enforce immigration laws or to adopt any meaningful immigration reform Democrats have kept a burgeoning latino population beholden to them and they can demonize the Republicans as the evil “opponents” of the latino community. Univision rightfully took President Obama to task for failing to adopt any meaningful reform (Univision Interview), and even other Democratic measures like the “Dream Act” are not real reform but simply a band-aid meant to perpetuate the existing system to maintain a huge advantage with this huge and growing demographic.
It is simply unacceptable to have laws on the books that neither party has any interest in enforcing. Ignoring these laws continually weakens the Rule of Law and contributes to growing perception of political incompetence, corruption and powerlessness. This problem is not insurmountable, there are numerous simple solutions ranging from regular and consistent enforcement of existing laws to the complete revamp of our immigration laws. Either way it is simply unacceptable to ignore the Rule of Law in America.
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If you need proof that there is something amiss in the world consider how a handful of dual-citizenship US/Israeli’s are responsible for ‘Homeland Security’ as our military has been tied down in these endless wars of aggression for the sake of the National Security of Israel, meanwhile armies of ‘workers’ from the increasingly Red ‘democracies’ of Central and South America daily stream across our own porous border uncounted and unaccounted for. In times of a ‘War on Terror’ where this bloated bully of a government of ours must spy on all of us all the time to protect us from AlQuaeda, is it just me or does that seem odd?
if texas ever claimes its republic domain and seceds from the us the hispanics will have done what they said years ago,and taken back tx.back from the us
“Republicans are equally at fault…by refusing to enforce immigration laws or to adopt any meaningful immigration reform.”
Fixed it for ya.
History did not begin on January 20, 2009.
I usually can follow your rants Snoopy – completely lost me this time. The original post argued that we are a country of laws and have to respect those laws until they are changed. Can you give me a little help understanding your obtuse response?
Just simply that it is not only Democrats who have “[refused] to enforce immigration laws or adopt any meaningful immigration reform” as you posited. Similarly, I am sure Democrats have been equally for “maintaining an inexpensive workforce”.
Snoopy, 1) can we agree that we have immigration laws that are not being enforced?
2) Can we agree that we are a nation of laws and that is diminished when those laws are not enforced?
1) Agreed…just as we have J-walking laws and spitting on the ground laws that aren’t enforced.
2) Somewhat agreed – as in the example above, unless you think there is some horrendous diminishing of our nation when those laws are not enforced.
But we also must agree that laws are not enforced or applied equally and I believe that diminishes our nation as much, if not more.
But I think even more than just enforcing existing laws, we need to adjust those laws to address today’s situation. It’s no longer as simple as just enforcing existing laws.
Do I agree we first need to seal the borders? You betcha!
Do I agree that the President’s recent EO addresses those who are not culpible for their parents’ actions? You betcha!
Do I agree we need reform? You betcha!
It’s a very difficult issue that has crept up on us and is now kicking us in the butt and punching us in the gut and requires a thoughtful resolution, not a knee-jerk reaction.
I only have a minute to read this now, but I think we agree across the board on what you have written.
Oops. Was supposed to be “Glasses clinking”. I used ‘<' and comment musta thought it html tag.
Anyway….Cheers!
(Shirley Temple here…I don’t imbibe alcohol)
There are approximately 12 million undocumented immigrants in our country. They came here for the same reasons our ancestors did. They wanted a better life for themselves and their families. They came here to work, and they do.
As a practical matter, we will never deport them. Most now have families here that include American citizens as their children, their brothers, and their sisters. They work for lower wages than American citizens would, so labor costs for many employers would go up. And it would simply be too hard and too expensive to track them all down and put them through deportation proceedings.
Thus the only real solution would be some sort of amnesty program. To make this a lasting solution and keep the problem from returning, real border security would have to be a part of the solution. Democrats could agree to this without alienating their base. But I doubt the same could be said of the Republicans. And that is why I doubt that our politicians will be able to reach an agreement.
We will never see any immigration reform until the Democrats control all three branches of government.
Roger, you have painted this as a purely Republican problem and that is entirely unfair. I have been more than willing to admit that the Republicans are a serious part of the problem. I do reject as a given that everyone living here now gets automatic amnesty. I think that would seriously undermine the incredible efforts made by those that have legitimately worked through the system and become citizens as provided in current law, but I don’t reject that out of hand. I do differ with you about Democratic support- while they have to pay lip service to immigration reform, they actually want a beholden group of voters that they con control.
Ok, well I guess we can all agree that whether we like the issue or hate the issue of illegals within the borders, there is no possible way to find them and deport them. Sure, we find 1% or 5% of them, but as a whole illegals will be impossible to find at 100% success. So what do we do?
It isn’t solely the Latino population either. What about the Chinese immigrants? How can we be sure the guy at the cleaners is legal? Some guy from Lebanon? Is he a citizen or not? the solution must begin with “where do we start?”
Do we allow some and not others, or do we take to the streets and start shooting everyone that looks different? The answers are just as hard as the problem is, so no one can really say they have a solution. So try to remember this the next time YOUR favorite politician stands up and says they know how to deal with the solution.
Zeus, lots of good issues here. Problem is that usually even trying to discuss these issues leads to an accusation that you are racist. I honestly believe that Democrats simply want permanently open borders with no controls. I wish the GOP had the guts to enact meaningful reform and put the Dems to the test.
“Problem is that usually even trying to discuss these issues leads to an accusation that you are racist.”
I disagree wholeheartedly. Quite the opposite, actually. Those who are sensitive about race (primarily Republicans, IMHO) are the ones who make this false accusation of others.
“I honestly believe that Democrats simply want permanently open borders with no controls. I wish the GOP had the guts to enact meaningful reform and put the Dems to the test.”
You believe incorrectly, or only filter your “beliefs” with “what I hear, not what is said”. Perhaps this is a “test” you overlooked because of your partisan filtering:
“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and other leading Democratic senators will formally unveil the outlines of legislation for comprehensive immigration reform late Thursday, CNN has learned.
Two senior Democratic sources say the Senate Democrats will discuss a proposal drafted by Reid, New York Sen. Chuck Schumer and New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez.
“This is a draft that reflects months of bipartisan work. It is intended to serve as an invitation to Republicans to look at it and sit down to solve problems with us,” one of the sources said.
The 26-page draft obtained by CNN attempts to woo GOP senators in part by calling for “concrete benchmarks” to secure the border before granting illegal immigrants the opportunity to gain legal status.
Those benchmarks include: increasing the number of border patrol officers and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, increasing the number of personnel available to inspect for drugs and contraband, and improving technology used to assist ICE agents.
At the same time, “high-tech ground sensors” would be installed across the Mexican border. Officers would be equipped with the “technological capability to respond to activation of the ground sensors in the area they are patrolling,” according to the draft.
Read more if you like: http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-29/politics/democrats.immigration_1_illegal-immigrants-number-of-border-patrol-immigration-reform?_s=PM:POLITICS
Perhaps this will serve to put a dent in your false narrative:
“HAVE HOUSE REPUBLICANS GIVEN UP ON BORDER SECURITY?”
“Fox News’ Steve Doocy told viewers yesterday he feels sorry for Arizona, because as he sees it, federal officials aren’t “doing their job” when it comes to immigration and border security.”
“This is a common complaint among Republicans. As the GOP sees it, policymakers can’t even begin to discuss comprehensive immigration reform because the federal government isn’t doing enough to “protect the border.”
“I tend to think most of this rhetoric is absurd, but this week, it took a more interesting turn. If the Republican emphasis is on border security, why did Republicans vote to reduce funding for their own priority?”
“In a letter sent on Monday to House appropriations leaders, Senator Charles Schumer of New York and two other Democrats said the House bill would shrink the Border Patrol by 870 agents and cut $272 million in funds for surveillance systems to monitor the border with Mexico. They said those cuts would cancel gains from a bill adopted last August, with virtually unanimous bipartisan support, that increased border funding by $600 million, adding 1,000 new agents to the Border Patrol.
“This magnitude of reduction is simply dangerous,” wrote Mr. Schumer, who is chairman of the Senate judiciary subcommittee on immigration. Also signing were Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico and Jon Tester of Montana.
“On Tuesday, House Republicans said this wasn’t good enough. Three days later, those same House Republicans voted to make the security they consider insufficient considerably worse — a smaller Border Patrol with fewer agents and less surveillance would mean a step backwards from the GOP’s own goals.”
“The next question, then, is why in the world Republicans would demand improved border security and then vote to do the opposite. The answer, I suspect, is that House GOP officials don’t really know what they’re doing — they looked at the budget for the fiscal year like a pinata, and just started swinging wildly while blindfolded. It seems quite likely to me that Republicans slashed funding for the Border Patrol without even realizing it.”
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_02/028113.php
So to summarize, [the Democratic] Senate passes increases to security and then [the Republican] House cuts spending on security.
Up is down and down is up.
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