
Photo Courtesy of Shannon Hicks/The Newtown Bee
The developing tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut in which two gunmen killed at least 26, mostly children, at Sandy Hook Elementary School highlights the number one problem in today’s American society. We are becoming a country which is depersonalizing and desensitizing its population. I would ask that all of you would pray for the families of those lost and to take a moment to think about those killed. Here are the current details of what is known about the shooting (by the time you watch this it will probably already be outdated):
I am sure that this tragedy will renew the debate about the need for further gun control which I view as a little like arguing a ban on cars to stop drunk driving. Instead I think that we need to look at the commonalities between the perpetrators of these horrific acts of unspeakable violence. As of the writing of this report, we know nothing about the perpetrator(s) of this heinous act. I will make some predictions: 1) they will be someone generally disconnected from community and/or family, 2) they will have some fervent belief that will be false or nonsensical, 3) they will have received no guidance from any rational person as to the efficacy of their acts, 4) they will have little or no feeling about their victims, viewing them as either obstacles to some imagined wrong or simply not seeing them as human beings at all, and 5) they will have felt justified about their actions at the time they undertook them.
In the past half century, America has changed from a community based society into an urban based society. America’s national outlook has changed from personal accountability and personal responsibility to a society that looks everywhere but inside each other to try to fix the things that are wrong. During the 19th century, it was much more likely that everyone knew each other inside a community and the likelihood that someone would feel disaffected would be far less today where a typical American can go through an entire day in cloaked anonymity if they so choose. People can choose to fall between the cracks, and delusion and insanity can fester in solitude. They may live surrounded by 20 million people without feeling connected to any of them. In fact, to the disaffected, their delusion probably includes a modicum of paranoia that tells them that everyone else is connected except them.
I certainly have no snappy answers to this tragedy except that we should all do what we can to find the disaffected and try to connect them back into society. To reach out and help those in need. To do what we can to create our own sense of community wherever we can. People with loving connections don’t walk into a school and kill a huge group of children under 10. People with loving connections don’t walk into a movie theater and open fire. Real relationships with real love is the only way to stop this seemingly daily insane violence.
“I am sure that this tragedy will renew the debate about the need for further gun control…”
Really?
We NEVER have that debate because the NRA has our politicians running scared.
Rampant mass executions- BLAME THE NRA!
This is not a gun issue. This is a mental health issue. You dolts that think this tradegy is a result of gun ownership would probably argue that forks cause people to become fat.
“People with loving connections don’t walk into a school and kill a huge group of children under 10.”
And they never seem to do it with a knife, or a baseball bat, do they?
No, you don’t hear of mass murders using knives or baseball bats that is true. Guns hold an unusual place in American culture and society making debate about the extent and reach of the Second Amendment very difficult.
ya blame the nra for some crazy mothafucka coming in to a school, guns dont just walk into schools and kill people u just want someone to blame shut up and grieve for these people
Guns don’t kill people.
Some of them just help people kill much more efficiently and in greater numbers.
There MUST be a debate in this country about the KINDS…the KINDS…of guns people can own.
I agree with your last sentence anon. I will probably alienate some of my conservative friends but there is a line for private ownership of weapons somewhere between nuclear weapon and 17th century musket. I try to engage folks on this topic in person and my liberal friends are absolutist wanting all guns banned and my conservative friends oftern have trouble articulating where the line should be. It is a topic has not been as well or widely debated as it should be.
I doubt you know very many liberals, most don’t have a problem with people owning hunting rifles or shotguns.
“…and my conservative friends oftern have trouble articulating where the line should be.”
That’s probably because some of them don’t think there should be a line.
If I were to be counted as one of your liberal friends, you would find that I am a proponent for gun ownership. I am a gun owner and received my first shotgun as a birthday gift when I was 13 (a “right of passage” in our family). I was not just handed a gun but was required to attend gun safety courses as well as considerable target practice before being allowed to join the family on hunting trips since noone wanted buckshot to become buttshot. As an adult, I own several rifles and shotguns and three handguns but hunting has taken a back seat due to the constraints of running a business. This “liberal” could easily give your hairstyle a new part on the left, right or center of your head. I have many liberal friends who are avid hunters and gun owners as well. I also have conservative friends who hold the same views of SOME liberals that guns are bad in every way. I truly have NO friends that think semi or automatic assault weapons have any use in our society, but then we’re hunters and protectors, not radical militant militias.
My point is that while there are many that fit the outdated stereotype of lib vs con with regard to guns, my personal experience is that both hold personal views outside of those assigned stereotypes and are not beholding to what many perceive as ideology based on their party affiliation. Once again, what I see in your comment above, GW, is you use harsh language to describe “liberals” and their views as “absolutist” while simultaneously using gentle language to describe conservative views as “trouble articulating”. I am really surprised you do not have friends whose views cannot be pigeon-holed as you portray. Of course these are “your friends” but we are not such “morons” to actually think your characterization isn’t a view you’d attribute to “all”, despite any denials you will attempt. This black/white, either/or, liberal/conservative assignment of views by party affiliation, IMHO, is an outdated premise in our very diverse and individualistic society, and no longer accurate from my personal experiences.
I know this will seem counter-intuitive to the liberal morons out there, but the solution is not gun control. The solution is gun proliferation and training in their effective use.
You’ll note that in states with high gun control the number of crimes committed using a firearm are astronomical. However, in states with concealed carry laws, or in the case of Texas where it seems like everyone proudly open-carries their weapon, the gun crime statistics are very low.
In closing, guns don’t kill people. People kill people. People with guns can protect themselves from other people with guns who are intent on harming them. You Socialists can just sit down and shut up now.
Yeah, it’s too bad those kindergartners weren’t armed. Every child should be packing.
Maybe Santa should bring the kiddies Glocks and semi automatic rifles for Christmas, but only if they’ve been very, very good.
Interesting how conservatives see those with differing views as “liberal morons” and “Socialists” that should just “sit down and shut up”.
Will GW decry this personal attack and attempt at censorship from the right, issuing a “fair warning” publicly to the poster, or does one envision a chortle by GW while he read the comment?
Final Jeopardy theme on enless loop…
Snoopy, what is the relevance of this comment to the post?
It is relevant because “liberal morons”, “Socialists” and “sit down and shut up” is an attempt to invalidate the opinions of others. I feel a reply to an invalid characterization of others’ opinions is quite relevant. I merely challenged the poster’s vitriol as being part of civil discourse. Should we not challenge false premises and those who use vitriol?
Perhaps you can explain how “liberal morons”, “Socialists” and “sit down and shut up” is relevant to the post. If you admonish one, you should admonish all, not just those with opposing views. The cry of the right is consistently expressed with “lack of condemnation = condoning” and I see no condemnation of the poster’s vitriolic “opinions”.
Dear Mr. Willis,
I am quite disappointed, and very disgusted with you, that you would use this tragedy to pen a piece that even touched on your views on gun control. Your posting this now (extremely premature, IMHO) shows how shameless you are when it comes to your “fervent belief[s] that [I view as] false or nonsensical”. Had you left out that one sentence about your views on gun control debate in this post, then this post would take on an entirely different meaning and your other opinions could be discussed intelligently. But that one sentence makes this a purely propaganda piece and quite disgusting, not to mention ill-timed.
Signed,
VERY Sad Snoopy
Sorry you see it that way Snoopy and are unable to read the entire piece in context. Your commentary throughout the blog makes clear that you view things solely through a set of beliefs that you hold so close it skews your viewpoint on almost every topic. This post was about love and understanding – too bad you took it otherwise.
Are you also disgusted with the President whose first step today was to issue a directive to his communications people NOT to make gun control a topic of the discussion of this tragedy and by doing so DID make gun control a topic of conversation among the media? I was not disgusted by the President’s directive and thought it appropriate given the fact that an event like this always revives the gun control debate.
As usual, you totally mischaracterize my comments. I did read the entire piece which is precisely why I opined:
“Had you left out that one sentence about your views on gun control debate in this post, then this post would take on an entirely different meaning and your other opinions could be discussed intelligently.”
Your continued false accusations of my beliefs being “skewed” is nothing more than your brand of attempt at censorship by ignoring that I hold strong convictions, not “skewed beliefs”. Sorry you see it that way through your own “skewed viewpoint” on almost every topic. Marginalizing my, and anyone else who disagrees with you, strongly held convictions as “skewed” while exalting your views to strongly held convictions does not further discussion. But it’s the classic tactic of the right to view anyone but themselves as “lessers” rather than “equals”. Denigrate, minimalize and marginalize, don’t discuss, is an intellectually dishonest approach and nothing more that a fallacious tactic with no merit.
I am shocked that you didn’t find a way to attack our President in the body of the piece, but kudos for finding a way to weave an attact on our President in the comments section. Your disgust for our President so skews your thought process that you twist EVERYTHING he does or says into a negative. So predictable…and beyond “skewed”.
Of course after waiting the “appropriate interval” the anit-gun folks are doing exactly what I predicted and trying to make this horrible event a rallying cry against guns. No law short of a complete gun ban and return would have stopped this kid from evil. The guns were not his, he killed the guns’ owner and then stole the guns. There are just some evil things that you are not going to stop. I stick to my premise that all you can do is try to reach out and connect the unconnected.
You ever wonder why the good old US of A has so much more “evil” than the rest of the civilized world?
Yep, we have more “evil” than liberal, socialist, urban Europe.
20 dead kids and people have the nerve to bring up gun control, wow GW, that’s a new low even for you.
You might want to review the discussion this weekend FROM BOTH SIDES instead of singling out “anti-gun folks”. Your filters are obviously not allowing you to hear that each side has some similar “rallying cries” and commonalities, such as background checks for ALL (even 70%+ of NRA members agree as well as a majority of the general public), closing gun show and private party sale background checks “loophole” (40% of the sale go unchecked), waiting periods, etc. Even numerous Republicans are against assault weapons and large magazines so this is not exclusive to “the left”. It is you and your ilk that conflate any discussion as “coming to take your guns”.
Even you commented “It is a topic has not been as well or widely debated as it should be. You even agreed the KIND of guns should be limited. Well should it be debated or not? Sounds like you are making this a rallying cry against guns to me if you agree the KIND of guns should be limited.
Perhaps you should inform the rest of the country when YOU think it appropriate to “begin” a debate, Arbiter Willis. You can’t be for debate and then against it when it starts because of YOUR opinion on what an “appropriate interval” is. You didn’t have any problem mentioning gun control in this post…at 1:57PM the morning it occurred. You’ve made numerous comments here on and since Friday. Guess you just couldn’t wait an “appropriate interval” to discuss/debate.
sociopaths kill children. this nut would have used a machete if he had to. his disturbed worldview was independent of the gun he apparently took from his mom…who he killed it seems. we have a whole generation of disconnected social retards that have a background in videogames, facebook, IM’ing, texting, tweeting…and whatever next comes along that permits persons to isolate themselves while pretending they are not.
i am glad i will be dead when this country implodes…i cannot bear to watch the news of dead kids.
Since March 2010, there has been a spate of mass killing attempts in China by individuals using non-gun instruments like knives and cleavers.
Of those 6 attacks, a total of 25 people were killed, for an average per attack of 4.2 people.
27 were killed in this one attack at Sandy Hook by a man using guns.
If you don’t think that the kinds of guns mass killers are using plays a part in the high numbers of those dead, you are in a serious form of denial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932011%29
Snoopy has a gun? God save us!!!
Seriously though gun control is the answer to nip this in the bud. If just one of the teachers had control of a good gun, or better yet all teachers had a CCW, the headlines would be a better story. Like this ” Man produces gun at grammar school is shot dead by teacher”
Guns save lives and prevent crime. (It only works if the good guys have guns)
And I own a business, pay lots of taxes, contribute much to charities in time and treasure and have never received a cent in “welfare”.
Are you sure you want to arm all those “liberal indoctrinators” prolific in our education system?
And I haven’t shot a “Buck” in a long time. Want to go hunting some time?
I am very interested in hearing your views on guns/gun control in America. I don’t see any of your views expressed here. What is your position?
Ya, lets ban diesel fuel and fertilizer. Ok city
And air planes and box cutters. 9, 11
And since our borders are secure there is no chance anything illegal could be smuggled in. Everybody will get along, we will all hold hands and skip through the green grass. We will all be carefree and hang out naked on the beach, like the Eloy people.
The only ones advocating for a ban on guns I see here are GW’s liberal friends. Two people out of 315 million Americans would hardly get guns banned.
This comment was directed at Anon, up the list i dobt know how i posted down here.
To me guns just are. They are our culture, a tool for specific purpose.
Its nice to have the security of a weapon. Our world is a dangerous place. Guns are in our constitution to protect from guberment oppression.
In my younger days i remember two occasions where i brandished a firearm, each time my actions and diplomacy defused a situation that i believe would likely have led to harm if i did not have a gun.
I don’t generally carry, but in most cases a gun is near usually in the truck, but i live in Montana and guns are common, crime is not.
Actually, Montana is only #15 on the index of National crime. 15th out of 50. While definitely lower than the national averages, I would exactly call crime in Montana uncommon.
http://www.usa.com/montana-state-crime-and-crime-rate.htm
* sorry, I meant “…wouldn’t exactly…”
YOU WON’T GET PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR GUNS OUT OF A COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO IMPROVE SECURITY IN AMERICA. AND WELL THEY SHOULD NOT. NO PEOPLE OR NATION ENDOWED WITH THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS HAS EVER BEEN SUBJECTED TO GENOCIDE. THAT IS AN ACADEMICALLY ESTABLISHED FACT OF HUMAN HISTORY. THESE MASS SHOOTERS ARE INSPIRED BOTH EACH OTHER IN A LINEAR TRAJECTORY OF EVER EXPANDING VIOLENCE BUT, EVEN MORE SO – I BELIEVE, THEY ARE ENFLAMED BY THE PROMISE OF BEING A REAL MEDIA HORROR SHOW. INCREDIBLY SAD. IN THE END IT IS, FOR ME, MORE EVIDENCE OF THE TERRIFICALLY DELICATE NATURE OF LIFE – AND WHO NEEDS TO BE REMINDED OF THAT? WE KNOW IT SO WELL BY NOW.
Mkultra red flag!! Disarm a nation
Foster the people – pumped up kicks
Song sounds so chill but yet soooo evil….Listen to the lyrics carefully
I agree with this article and i have to tell you that I am one of those people without any connections. I do view others as not being people and a lot of them are “connected” and I am not. That’s exactly what the problem is. I’m not going to go shooting anybody. In fact, this has been a self-fulfilling prophesy that was enacted by the people who accused me of wanting to shoot people and then cutting me off from society. It really is the fault of ignorant peons and society does need to change.
It’s interesting how this story has continued to change and evolve. So much confusion, from the identity of the shooter, to the number and identities of those killed, to his weaponry, how he got into the school etc. And to think this happened in this country, in daylight, with a single shooter and only one location, WHY don’t we know the entire story EXACTLY as it unfolded?
Compare this to Benghazi, thousands of miles away, foreign country, foreign language, multiple attackers, multiple locations, multiple people involved in the response, multiple uprising occurring all over the region at the same time and it all happened at night, but republicans would have us believe that it should’ve been all sorted out immediately.
Of course logic is not a republican strong suit.
This reply is so insensitive and misplaced I will respond only by saying that I will pray for the victims and the families of the victims for this evil deed.
How is it “insensitive”? Are any of the grieving parents going to read this? Are YOU any closer to these victims than you were to the Benghazi victims?
YOU HAD NO PROBLEM POLITICIZING THOSE DEATHS.
Please explain the differences or are you hiding behind faux outrage because you CAN NOT JUSTIFY YOUR OWN STUPID COMMENTS ABOUT BENGHAZI?
Before you threaten to censor me for being “off-topic”, I truly believe this is a very good analogy. Chaos is chaos, making it very hard to accurately determine the chain of events.
joe, your reply is not insensitive at all. GW is one of the disaffected with many fervent beliefs that are false and nonsensical. He’s even tried to indict “society” as the cause of this tragedy. It is clear to rational thinkers that mental illness is the source of “the problem” and the common factor with the spate of recent tragedies. But GW would have us believe that it is “society” or urbanization or our evolution from the repressive 19th century puritanical mores. I would venture a guess that he’s one who believes homosexuality is nurture and not nature and “reparative therapy” will fix ya up. All we can do is to continue to reach out to GW here, creating a sense of community through this blog, and try to connect him back to reality. I know his loyal following here loves him despite his shortcomings.
Snoopy, we both agree that mental illness of some sort is the explanation for these horrific acts. I suggest that world population especailly in urban centers leads to disconnection and allows the mentally infirmed to fester undetected. Since you seem solely bent on attacking me for some reason, what do you see as the “solution” to help limit events like the Newtown Massacre?
First off, Newtown, Connecticut is not some “urban center” it is a small town (27,000 pop.).
In fact it’s right out of a Norman Rockwell painting,so you could hardly be more wrong.
Secondly, from what we know so far, the mother was a “survivalist”. Actually she was one of your people GW, probably thought the country was going to hell in a hand basket because of Obama and was stocking up on guns.
Hey, isnt that one of the end results of that whacked out F&F theory that YOU promote;
Obama’s comin’ to get your guns, so ya better stock up.
YOU GW ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Wild crazy, irresponsible partisanship has frightened people into BUYING AND STOCKING UP ON GUNS since Obama’s election. We don’t need dim witted, easily frightened and angry folks having more guns, but that is exactly what the right-wing media has promoted.
YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW and all your “prayers” mean nothing.
You may be a bit too sensitive to criticism if you view any discourse as “attacking” you.
There are NO solutions to tragedies such as the one in Newtown short of a police state psychoanalyzing each and every citizen and compiling a dossier on each of us with constant monitoring. Implants maybe? Maybe a clearing house for neighbors to report neighbors with certain “personality traits” which could then be “diagnosed” as “personality disorders” and a “potential” danger to society. I mean we’re all exactly the same so any variance from the “norm” could be viewed as a danger to society and potentially a “mass murderer”. Suddenly if you don’t speak to the neighbor you don’t like you’re viewed as “disaffected, disconnected” and a festering mental boil on society to be lanced? Better not be a “shy” person! It could be a “warning sign” and the authorities will come take you away for “debriefing”.
Are you for or against “debate” on gun control? You haven’t posited even one “solution” yourself. I asked a couple days ago:
http://thinkingrightblog.com/at-least-27-dead-in-tragic-school-shooting-depersonalizing-and-desynthesizing-america/#comment-22486
…and your reply was…well, there was no reply. Suddenly anyone even daring to discuss is brandished as “exploiting” this tragedy or “coming for your guns”.
You “predict” the same personality type that anyone could and then pat yourself on the back for having done so. It’s like “predicting” the sun will rise each day and now we have a median among us.
I disagree with your indictment of “urban centers” of society being the cause of the individual problems this person had. Violence is the issue, not locality of the violent. You might want to review the festering of the rural dweller if you want to indict society.
Well said. Between he confusion of the developing situation versus the calm reflection upon historical facts lies a gulf….a good thing to try to remember if you care about appearing rational.
Guess what folks there really is a matrix.There using it to drive normal people insane.They can turn “normal JOE” into a stark raving mad shooter in no time. They brought us 911,Columbine,Va. tech, The mall over here in Clackamass and of course yesterdays…..But it’s so far out there no one will believe or listen so they will continue.
Ya, Alex Jones is ranting about mind control. Its possible. The unabomer was in the CIA drug mind control experiments during the 60′s. It never hit the mainstream but it is a fact that is easily verified by an internet search.
Anti depressants were likely involved in the New Town shooting. Time will tell. On the other hand we cant trust the information released by any gov agency.
Now we will see the liberal/left in the form of a bunch of US/Israeli dual citizenship despots tell Americans they must give up their guns to be ‘safer.’ You won’t hear any of these same voices saying anything of the kind in their ‘other’ country. And as for President Obama weeping openly with tears on camera, it makes me want to puke. Our military and especially those cowardly drone operations kill children by the scores in multiple countries.
“Now we will see the liberal/left…tell Americans they must give up their guns to be ‘safer.’”
No we won’t.
Snoopy snoopy Snoopy…. Yes we are seeing it.
“Washington (CNN) — It has happened before: Aurora. Columbine. Tucson. Virginia Tech.
But, this time, the White House and a growing number of Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill promise it will be different. This time, they say, things will change….”
Christ…Christo…Christopher.
I don’t see “they must give up their guns” in your little quotable quote. Now if you’d like to provide a piece of legislation to support your stannum sombrero hyperbole, I’d be happy to look over the details, preferable of the final language after what is sure to be considerable debate.
California Federal Senator Dianne Goldman Berman Feinstein (‘Our Solidarity Has to Be With Israel’) has now announced she will soon introduce a weapons ban bill.
Sucks being wrong doesn’t, Snoopy?
But I’m not wrong, Christ-opher. You are with your red herring.
You have not shown legislation introduced, or what is in it, or what the final debated legislation contains that shows “give up their guns”. What I heard from her appearance is what she will introduce, and nowhere did she state “coming fer yer guns”.
Banning future purchases ≠ “give up your guns”.
Introduced ≠ passed.
Sucks being wrong so often, huh Christ-opher?
I’m sensing some “warning signs” in your comments. You’re not one of the disaffected ones with fervent beliefs are you? Do you reside in an urban area?
What I predicted is exactly what is happening. Jewish liberal (Israel lover) penning new gun control legislation for the USA citizenry with one hand while flipping through the pages of the Talmud with the other and dreaming of the day the Jews can drive the Palestinians into the desert. Yes, I am highly disaffected. Yes, my beliefs are beyond fervent. Yes. I live in the biggest city in my state. And No – I’m not afraid to speak my mind or publish my thoughts online with my own real name and photograph to back the fact that I mean what I say, consequences be damned. (Why did your family wait until your 13th birthday to gift you a firearm? Was it your Bar Mitzvah? Are you a typical Jewish liberal? Is that why you cower behind an alias as you run your suck? Tell the truth, Bubbie.)
Between your and GW’s “predictions”, y’all should be in Washington solving all the world’s problems before they happen. Of course stating the obvious is hardly a “prediction” but you just go ahead and exalt yourself with you self-professed superiority with your “powers of prediction”. Can you and GW share the throne?
Really bothers you that I’m not “just like you”, huh? Personal choices be damned…do as I want you to do or you’re “a coward”. Meh. Petty and inconsequential. You make your choices in life and I make mine. You do believe in my freedom to choose, don’t you?
And our family is German/Irish so, as ususal, you’re way off base with your feeble attempt to insult. And 13 is when the youth become a “teenager”…as I explained before, a rite of passage…into teen-hood. It’s a simple thing called tradition in our family. Even the girls are allowed to partake in the tradition if they choose…and nearly all have chosen. We call Grandma our “pistol packin’ momma” too!
Sucks to be so wrong…again, huh Christ-opher?
Geoffrey….Christ-opher seems solely bent on attacking me….waaa waaa waaa.
P.S. Thanks for “not” reading my comments.
It is very amusing to be taunted and insulted by a coward who lacks the faith in his/her own positions to put his/her own name on his/her own words. Snoopy often opens up and lends context to his/her posts in the form autobiographical details so it is clear this person understands that what someone says is only fully understandable in THE CONTEXT of who is speaking. But being a sniveling liberal who, like all liberals, must conceal and miscolor and distort elements of the discussion in order to appear to have valid perspectives, Snoopy is a shaky-nerved little phantom with a big mouth and no integrity to back it up. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?
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President Obama announced today that he would support an assault weapons ban….
And now we have learned that President Obama is tapping V.P. Biden to head a ‘thinking task force’ on gun violence and gun control. So much for a threat to guns, folks. Biden will drive this one down an alley somewhere. It is political suicide to try to take people’s guns. A notional assault rifle ban is in the mix but high capacity 9mm pistols are just as deadly inside many many yards of range. Inside a building, such a pistol is probably a greater threat than an awkward rifle/long gun. Plus, a rifle round will go through and exit human flesh, especially up close. A 9mm will tend to enter, stop and stick a bit better, and thus wreak devastating damage as the energy of the round is absorbed in the course of the bullet being stopped without exiting. Guns ain’t going nowhere. It would, in the final analysis, be like trying to ban Bic butane lighters. There are probably more guns for goodness sake.
True drone strikes have killed far more children, dont forget Waco, I think 75 dead. But maybe when our gov is the terrorist it doesn’t count. Ruby ridge, ATF used an MP 5 machine gun to kill a 14 year old. They shot his dog then shot him up the back as he was ruining home. ATF shot his mom in the head ,she was only holding a baby.
I dont think we would like the USA if only the enforcers had guns.
Please. Do you honestly think that it’s a very small minority of peaceniks on the left who think nobody should own ANY kind of gun that are the ones who are going to get their way in this debate? Seriously?
I would suggest that you re-calibrate your paranoia and put it into perspective.
Our great President Obama, showing leadership once again, announced today that he would support an assault weapons ban. I am happy to see a debate/discussion will finally be had.
you decry me as outrageous when i I deflecting mention that this tragedy will be abused by the anti-gun lobby and then hypocritically do exactly as I predicted. Definition of hypocrite.
Since you seem solely bent on attacking me for some reason, and couldn’t wait an “appropriate interval” before invoking “renew the debate about the need for further gun control”, what “solutions” do offer to the debate/discussion? (3rd request)
Definition of hypocrite! But we already knew that of you.
While I applaud your desire to enact some sort of beneficial change, gun control has been poured over so many times that even massive amounts of change (or stagnation) will likely have little to no impact on the populace. In effect, we have been disarmed already, and now we are only allowed toys which can do limited amounts of damage.
Meanwhile, we have a nation of declining mental health. We strongly oppose even touching the issue because we view poor mental health to be disgusting, and that disgust even taints efforts to improve mental health with disgust. If you diverted even 10% of your effort toward improving the nation’s mental health and happiness, I would give up my spot in heaven to you. It is really better to be at peace than to worry about what someone else owns.
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